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Teachers Union, School Board Accuse Each Other of Not Negotiating Fairly

The Brecksville-Broadview Heights school board has also filed charges against individual teachers.

 

The Brecksville-Broadview Heights Board of Education and Education Association have accused each other of not fighting fair—officially.

Both parties have filed Unfair Labor Practice charges with the State Employment Relations Board, related to this year’s contentious contract negotiations.

Here's a look at the charges that have been filed in the past few months:

  • The teachers union, the Brecksville-Broadview Heights Education Association, filed its charge against the board back in April, claiming that the board’s negotiation news website was an “attempt to create ill will” against the association. The contract proposals are published on the website, which is still running.
  • The board filed its charges against the union in June, alleging that the association’s website contained “numerous false and disparaging statements” about the board in an attempt to “smear and discredit” it. The union has closed its website to members only.
  • The board also filed three Unfair Labor Practice charges against individual teachers in July. In each case, the board pointed to a letter or an email sent by the teacher to parents that the board said contained “false and disparaging statements.”

A representative of the State Employment Relations Board said in an email that the five cases are still under investigation, and dates for the board to consider the cases have not been scheduled at this time.

The charges were provided by the State Employment Relations Board and can be found in the PDFs above.

For reactions and more details on the charges, check out the articles below:

Related Topics: Brecksville-Broadview Heights Board of Education, Brecksville-Broadview Heights Education Association, Contract Negotiations, and State Employment Relations Board

Mark Thomas

10:13 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

So under the current contract, a teacher with a Masters Degree and 12 years of experience makes $72,372. The proposed contract, $51,808. The new salary schedule, increased health care costs, and lack of sonority MIRROR the working conditions the citizens of Brecksville have been experiencing for years.

It’s time to hit the reset button on excessive salaries and generous benefits. I applaud the school board for boldly seeking fiscal stability. I’m not sure the teachers' timing is appropriate considering nearly 1,000 teachers state-wide were laid off this year.

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Jen J

11:10 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Mark - Those numbers are incorrect. Under the board's proposal the teacher you describe would have a salary of $72,372. Look at page 29 that lists the salaries, column MA row 12. $72,372 for 1,300 hours comes out to $55/hr. That's very good pay! Plus they get 14% of their salary toward their retirement, plus do not have a health care deductible, plus pay hardly any of the health care premiums.
I do not believe they will be able to find anything close to this compensation if they end up losing their jobs and I also believe there is a long line of teachers that would love to come to the district and be happy with the numbers the board is proposing.

Meredith

10:46 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Mark,
Would you be OK with a $20,500 pay cut?

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Mark Thomas

11:30 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Meredith,
Existing teachers would not be subjected to $20,500 cuts. Their salaries would be rolled back to 2010-11 numbers. Teacher hired after July 2012 would be placed on the proposed “separate” salary schedule.

As for your question directed to me, I have taken a total of $12,000 in pays cuts between 2010 and 2012. I'm grateful to be employed during these difficult times.

Robert K.

12:09 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

What does "rolled back" mean?

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Dave Ping

9:19 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I don't understand. Meredith, you would get a $20,000+ pay cut?

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Robert K.

10:48 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I think Meredith misunderstands. There would not be an actual pay "cut" in salary. It would really be a long term freeze because no one would see raises until the salary number proposed on the Board salary schedule "caught up" with current salaries. As an example, the 50+% of the staff (the Board never references in their examples )who have received no raises the past two years because they no longer receive experience raises or raises for continuing education graduate credit hours will likely be frozen at their current salary for about the next 10+ years (in addition to the two years frozen already). I'm in favor of some more freezes for experience, but a 12+ year freeze for 50+% of our teachers?
The same will happen to the younger teachers, but to a slightly lesser degree for graduate coursework ONLY. Steps will still be frozen unless the Board decides to give experience raises. Based on this Board's current actions, the teachers are well within their rights to be mistrustful.
EVERYONE will be subjected to a far-inferior medical plan with triple prescription co-pays and a required minimum $3,000-$5,000 deductible. Office co-pays will NOT be applied to that deductible. The employees already pay a premium of about $150/month for dental, medical, and prescription. There is no vision coverage that I can see in either proposal. It would go up to about $175.00/month. I don't think that is unreasonable.

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lyn

11:11 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Robert-
You seem to have analyzed various aspects of the contract, so maybe you could clarify something. What do people mean when they say they are getting 14% of their salary towards retirement?
As I understand STRS, teachers have to pay 10% in lieu of paying into social security, and this will be increasing to 14% over the next 4 years. And the district puts in its share for each employee, just as as employer would in the private sector, towards social security.
I'm not trying to debate here the amount each pays or receives or when they can collect, because that it is an entire debatable issue. I just don't understand the debate about the comment I keep reading.
Also, IN MY OPINION, I don't think ANY districts should be paying the teachers 10% portion, as well as the districts portion - just as no private employer pays into social security for an employee. To me, any juggling of numbers to justify doing this was just that - juggling of numbers - saying that a district would pay 10% for an employee is like giving a 10% raise. And I do understand the ramifications of calling it one thing instead of another.

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lyn

12:50 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Different circumstances, but what if the Board does something similar to what Reagon did in the early 80's with the air traffic controllers. And, they may have the backing of people in Brecksville as many are anti-union and these Board members were voted in. There are lots of experienced teachers as well as new teachers who would jump at the chance to have a teaching job in Brecksville should the teachers stand there ground. Sure, it would be bumpy road at first, but in no time things would start to click and run smoothly and to the satisfaction of many. And, the tide is turning. More and more are saying, go ahead and strike, leave, replace them.
People often overestimate their value - but let me remind you: anyone can be replaced. And, the success and achievement of the student in Brecksville is largely due to the individual, family and community - besides the teacher.

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Robert K.

1:29 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Everyone shares in a student's success. The parent, the child, and the school (not just their teacher).
Reagan's plan will not work here. A strike in BBH is legal and the employees cannot be fired for striking if they meet all the criteria necessary to strike. The strike authorization vote recently was one of those steps.
Regardless, I love the people who work at our schools. I want them to stay. I also want a smooth school year from Day 1 for my children.
Let's get this contract settled!

Robert K.

1:13 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

lyn- I sincerely appreciate the opportunity to answer in a factual manner. STRS collects 24% of an employee's salary for their eventual pension. Ohio Revised Code requires the employer to contribute 14% as their share of the total STRS premium toward a teacher's pension. How the remaining 10% is paid to STRS is up to each district. In BBH, the teachers pay their own 10%. As for the administration, their 10% has always been picked up and paid by the district (Board). When the seemingly imminent passage of Issue 2 (SB5) loomed last fall, one of the law changes would've been an outlawing of any district's ability to pay the employee share of the 10% STRS premium for ANY employee. As a result, the BBH Board decided to assess the Administration that 10%, but they received it back immediately as a salary increase. Translation...the Board still pays the Administration's 24%...but in a more creative way that was meant to circumvent the potential law change last fall. The extra silver lining the Board gave them is that their salary has, in effect, gone up by 14% for STRS purposes. That salary number is what is used to calculate their ultimate pension, thus increasing their final salary/pension by 14%. It's a shell game.
In response to your comment about the employee share going up to 14% from 10%, you are correct.
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lyn

3:53 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

So, when people keep saying "they are getting 14% of their salary toward their retirement", it really is nothing more than a misconception on their part. It is actually the districts share that they are putting in, just like an employer puts in its own share for an employee towards social security. I kept reading this, and I thought maybe Brecksville was putting in for the teachers share, and people thought it was already at the eventual 14%.

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Robert K.

1:53 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

lyn, your conclusion below is correct.

Robert K.

1:25 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Also, the Social Security reference reminds me of something no one has brought up either. Teachers who have accrued Social Security credits at any point in their life are penalized for receiving STRS benefits. For every dollar a teacher receives from STRS in their pension check, a dollar is deducted from their Social Security benefits. That seems quite unfair to me.

My final point is below...

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Robert K.

1:25 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Thank you, again, for allowing me to answer your question. I really believe that we have the right to our own opinions, but they should have some type of factual information on which to form them. I talk to a lot of people from each "side". I make my best attempt to confirm or deny what I hear. Then I form my opinion and share what I have verified. Based on what I've learned over the last week, I am really starting to believe that our Board is simply trying to blow up the unions. I am not a conspiracy theorist by any means, but the facts I continue to share are really leading me to believe that it's not really about money; it's about vilifying our hard-working employees who are with our kids every day. I don't begrudge Administrators their pay, benefits, etc., but they clearly have as sweet a deal as the union workers. Why isn't the Board addressing ALL the employee compensation packages, not just the ones who pay union dues? And you know the saddest part? That tunnel vision is going to hurt our students, athletes, parents, aides, coaches, teachers, etc. Can't people see that the teacher's pay is a red herring?

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lyn

3:37 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I think part of the answer to your question about administrators pay vs. teachers comes down to the fact that, as per ODE for 2010-11, there were only 22 in admin positions vs. 233.6 teachers - less than 10%. And, what happens with the admin. positions occurs "quietly" as opposed to the volatile atmosphere that the teachers created in their response. Also, people look at those who work 9 months vs. 12 months differently - I assume admin. positions are 12 months. That's not to say people are not happy with what admin. are receiving. But, by numbers, you are only talking about a handful of people vs. a couple of hundred. I'm sure the admin "slips under the radar". It is easier to control the large numbers.
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lyn

3:38 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

But, what many are unhappy about, is that the teachers still continue to benefit while at the same time the kids have pay-to-play and some have no busing. Lets face it, if funds were not spent in one area, they could be spent in another - and why not the kids, just what the schools are for. When I looked at the pay-to-play, I was even surprised to see the play and musical required payment. None of that happened when I was in school - and I participated in many activities. I also remember going through neighborhoods trying to rally support for the levy - this was student organized. People might support a levy IF they think its for the students and the teachers actually give back. But I know this is an area others feel like they should not have to budge on - why should they have to give up anything?
Robert, I appreciate the polite discussion.

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lyn

4:33 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

And, I was thinking further about your comment regarding the admin salary, and I appreciate your comment " I don't begrudge Administrators their pay, benefits, etc., but they clearly have as sweet a deal as the union workers".
From the ODE site-
Admin - 22 - $92,485 average
Teachers - 233.6 - $78,868 average
IF the admin are 12 month employees, then the average per working month is:
Admin $7707
Teachers $8763

Just some interesting figuring.
AND PLEASE....Not to provoke any discussion on how teachers say they also work 12 months or how high their average pay is - so please, others, don't start arguing over this again. This is merely to determine what the actual average is per employee in the district.

Robert K.

7:22 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

lyn- I, too, appreciate the polite debate. It makes it so much easier get to real issues that matter to people most. Just a few thoughts:
1. There are certainly less administrators, but my primary point was about the Board's constant publicizing of the union workers' pay and benefits while not publicizing administrative contracts at all. A prime example is what I said about the new treasurer. He is a retire/rehire making the same amount on Day 1 of his contract as the former treasurer (who left just days ago) made on the last day of her contract. Is that fiscally responsible? Why hasn't the Board been quoted in news articles and press releases as hiring a newly retired treasurer from Lakewood at the same salary as the outgoing treasurer?
2. Administrative contracts go from 10 months to 12 months, with most having 10 month contracts. I've seen with my own eyes teachers staying as long as 10 days after their paid/contracted days end and coming in as early as 2 weeks before their paid/contracted days start again in August. So that means the teachers are putting in as much time (at a minimum) as the building administrators (with the exception of the high school principal). There are administrators at the BOE (Supt., Treasurer, Business Manager) who have yearlong contracts, but they get 3-4 weeks of paid vacation. Teachers' "vacations" are unpaid.
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Robert K.

7:22 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I would like to look at the ODE website for our administrators' average salaries. Do you have the link? I have seen every one of the BBH administrators' contracts and none of the full-time administrators make less than $103,000. They also have a district-supplied cell phone, unlimited Personal Days, and paid vacation days (varying in amount based on whether they are a 10 month or 12 month administrator.) In addition, they receive one free physical paid 100% by the Board. There are other "perks" that union workers don’t get, but I think I've made my point.
Our family has been financially affected by pay-to-play and the abolishment of high school busing, which I am not happy about, also. Unfortunately, I've heard from quite a few community members whose children have graduated, and they say parents should assume at least the pay-to-play costs at 100%. I disagree with them, but that sentiment is out there. Concessions of any type will not change these voters’ minds when a levy comes up.
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Robert K.

7:24 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

As far as teachers giving back...my opinion is that a freeze for experience would be an indication of the teachers' dedication to our kids. They should still be compensated for the graduate coursework they pay for with their own money, on their own time (like summers and weekends), to be better teachers for our kids. In return, this community needs to pass a new money levy. And since the Board talks about "shared sacrifice" all the time, their "share" should include concessions from administrators and a reduction of the Board members' stipends. The combination may get back high school busing (which doesn't really save the Board much money anyway) and reduce pay-to-play fees.

By the way, is everyone aware that BOTH unions are meeting with a federal mediator? Everyone talks about teachers, but the reality is that our kids may not see even one familiar face this fall if both unions are on strike.

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Robert K.

8:36 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

lyn- Thank you for the link. I will take a look at it and see if I can draw any comparisons or find any discrepancies when put side-by-side with our administrators' actual contracts.

Be careful about reading Buckeye Institute. There are seven administrators on there who haven't worked here anywhere from 1-6 years. I also looked at (about) the first 30 teacher names and found 8 who have been retired as many as 4 years.
They also have building data only through the 2009-2010 school year; a full three years ago.
I printed the school data page and will let you know if there are any discrepancies after I do some research about the actual teachers in each building.

Also, of the 12 administrators that are accurately listed at Buckeye, exactly 1/2 work 260 days, but they get paid vacation out of that time. Four work 210 days, one works 218 days, and one works 230 days. All of them also get paid vacation time within those allotted days, but it varies by contract for each person. Don't forget, they ALL also get UNLIMITED Personal Days (days you can use for any private reason).
My point is, all is not what it seems on Buckeye or from other sources that don't have the actual contracts for the actual people.

I'll let you know what else I find.
Thank you, lyn, for being open-minded and willing to continue investigating what is really true., wherever that may lead both of us :)

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Robert K.

2:00 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

lyn- WOW! The ODE website has a lot of information!!!

So far, I have compared what ODE has for average teacher salaries and the number of full-time teachers with Buckeye Institute's data in the same two categories using the same year. As I suspected, Buckeye is not only way off on who our administrators are (as I posted earlier), but they are also off in the average teacher salaries and way off in the number of full-time teachers.
Salaries are off by as much as $1500 and the number of full-time teachers is off by 36 teachers.

So far, NOT ONE "fact" on Buckeye has been correct, and 2 of the 3 areas I've checked so far (that are "hot buttons" on here) are way, way off.

Let's stay away from Buckeye Institute. Their data is clearly flawed.

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