Because the question was not about Fast and Furious! It was about gun control in this country. Romney went wandering off and never answered the question. He also never answered the question about Equal Pay but went on a tale of hiring women and binders.

Two questions totally ignored.

so in your idea of gun control it is ok to give 2000 weapons to drug dealers

When Candy Crowley asked Romney to explain his "self-deportation" policy he flatly refused. He said "NO!"

carolo - wisconsin

Fast and Furious was started in 2006. Long before Obama was even campaigning for President

bill you win the blame bush award tonite ,,,,sorry you are wrong it was called " Wide Receiver.” and it was guns with rfid chips in them but the operation was shut down in 2007 because it did not work so keep digging bill

Here you go Tom:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fast_and_Furious

Started in 2006. Ended by Obama in 2011. I know how you Republicans hate facts

Bill did you even read the link ....2006–2008: Operation Wide Receiver .....2009–2011: Operation Fast and Furious

which started On October 26, 2009 come on bill you can do better than that

* Insert crickets...

Tom did you even read it? Same program-different name after regime change

bill you are not worth responding to anymore.........Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007 fast and furious BEGAN October 2009

Do not feel alone Tom. You are not the first right wing crazy to try and pin the
loss of jobs that occurred in Obama’s first six months in office on him. He inherited
that massive economic freefall from your beloved could do no wrong Bush! You are
including those job losses in your "calculation" and that is simply put ONE BIG CHEAP SHOT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ljoel I too have a problem with the whole 5 million job created story,
If obama created 5 million new jobs why are there 15 million more people on foodstamps

so what !!! Is there a point there ??? no I say romney won so that erases Krauthammers point

O did win by lots

Another comment has been deleted. Again, let's keep it clean and refrain from personal attacks. http://brecksville.patch.com/terms

Geoffrey, You realize there were unemployed Americans before President Obama took office? You also realize there were men and women on food stamps before he took office? You realize there were women living in poverty before he took office? Throw out some other numbers as well. How about oil prices are lower than they were five years ago. Gas prices are lower than they were when Obama gave his acceptance speech at the convention in 08. More students are in college than they were when he took the oath of office. Sure, they are all facts, but out of context they also mean nothing. Stop spouting talking points.

From the transcript in the Rose Garden......
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No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
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Did ya catch those "acts of terror words"?

Sir, did you listen to the debate or do you need hearing aids.
The NY Time reported the first debate with Mitt lying 12 times, this debate #2 even the moderator had to tell him that The President in the Rose Garden told the truth! I am a true believer that those really listen to Mitt can't hear not read. Just review how he left is state of Mass. in chaos, debit and millions of jobs lost. HELLO OUT THERE! Theresa

"Obama couldn't look Romney in the eye" . Did you miss the part where the President called Romney's statements "offensive"? Did you actually listen ?

carolo you forgot these lines in your copy paste
Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts

Romney got his a** handed to him on the Lybia topic. He and his people didn't research the facts and thought the attack wasn't called a terrorist attack until 14 days later. The true fact was it was called a terrorist attack the day after the attack.

The Repubs have used the attack that killed the 4 Americans as a political weapon from the day that it happened. The sad part is, as usual, they were talking out of their behinds then and have continued this practice into present day.

Romney ducked questions that were need to know. You think Obama has 3 million women living in poverty, 47 million on food stamps? Wait and see how that number rises if Romney gets elected! If you are going to spout off how many people are on fs, unemployment and so on... send a link to support your numbers. Otherwise, you sound like Romney talking without supporting his facts, I'm sorry to say.

" He flat out lied about the Libya speech in the ross garden, check the transcript on whitehouse.gov."
Wrong. I suggest you learn how to read. Then clean the crap out of your ears and listen better next time. Or, were you listening via The Daily Caller?
And, it's The Rose Garden, wingtard.

"He flat out lied about reduced drilling permits on government land."
Your hearing sucks. The fact is, we ARE drilling for more oil under BHO than we have in the past.

I did read the Rose Garden address and Obama does say that the event in Benghazi was an act of terror. He compared it with the 9/11 event. He also threatened the perpetrators.
This is what Obama said:
"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

Also, the attackers themselves said they were attacking the Benghazi compound in revenge for the video. Were they lying?
From the NY Times:
"To Libyans who witnessed the assault and know the attackers, there is little doubt what occurred: a well-known group of local Islamist militants struck the United States Mission without any warning or protest, and they did it in retaliation for the video. That is what the fighters said at the time, speaking emotionally of their anger at the video without mentioning Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or the terrorist strikes of 11 years earlier. And it is an explanation that tracks with their history as members of a local militant group determined to protect Libya from Western influence."

carolo - wisconsin

@ Glinda, et al: On September 20, eight days after Obama claims to have called the Benghazi attack an 'act of terror'...Jay Carney affirmed to reporters that the White House had NEVER called it a 'Terrorist Attack'.

Read the ENTIRE Rose Garden bit. Terrorist attack was mentioned rather generically...not specific to the Benghazi attack.

Just like Fort Hood... Work Place Violence.

Gimme a break you guys...you can wish with all your heart that reality is something its not....but that really wont fly. You like the guy and you are going to vote for him even if he gives the keys to NSA to the extremists. So be it.

that was his same response to fast an furious (silence)

He also said "get the transcript."

Candy Crowley just admitted she was wrong after looking at the transcript and that romney was correct

Besso you have should listened more closely Candy answered the question for both
And Romney should not have treaded on that water because he failed miserably. Opened the door for O to slam it on him

Wow! You are as wrong as Romney! lol

Romney has a better resume' than Obama. Romney has actually created jobs and saved companies. This failed presidency has cost the U.S. dearly in the economy, the international stage, and has created divisiveness never before seen in America.

Snake oil salesman I think now after watching Romney

Robert Barnes, you think Romney has a better resume? Is that what you are going on? He has bought companies, sold them or sent them overseas and has put hundreds of thousand Americans out of jobs. Romney is an American worker's worst enemy! Hel, he's America's enemy and he left the state of Mass. in shambles. The state of Mass was left 47th or 48th in the country in joblessness! How can you say he created jobs in America when he created MORE jobs in China?!

yep -- Romney, the Job Cremator.

No,
only the Democrats of this country "can feel in their gut that Romney is an empty suit".
It fits their wishful thinking. I wish they could feel that President Obama is an empty designer suit.

Mr. Barnes, It's the failed presidency of George W. Bush and 12 years of one-party Republican rule in both houses of Congress that have "...cost the U.S. dearly in the economy, the international stage, and...created divisiveness never before seen in America." The Tea Party made all of that worse, and the pathetic attempt to buy the election as a result of the Supreme Court's Citizen's United decision has doomed us all to more elections just like this until we overturn it. If you don't manage to steal this election, we may have a chance to stop the takeover of our democracy by corporations and the absurdly rich people who run them. And Bob...how do you know what Rmoney's resume is? He changes his positions daily, depending on which way the wind blows and who he's speaking to, so why would you think you can believe what he wrote about himself on a sheet of paper?

Mr Barnes,
Romney doesn't create jobs. He buys companies, shuts down their plants, and moves jobs overseas. Don't believe me? Look at what a mess MASS was when he left office.

Murphy-Solon...I respect you as you well know. But disagree vehemently with you on Romney. He is not my 'choice', I'd rather have Gary Johnson. But for the damage done to our nation both economically and security-wise...I would vote for Howdy Doody in order to replace our present great leader.

$100 billion taxpayer money lost to failed and failing Green Companies. I want more green energy...but this 'overnight' approach is a disaster.

Ideology must not interfere with security both economic and foreign.

with a very liberal Candy Crowley not only moderating the debate (giving obama 10% more time) but also picking and choosing the questions that got asked and that is all the better obama could do

who are you in agreement with not me

In Bush's defense, he entered Afgh, turned right and ended up in Iraq. He just got lost. It's a guy thing... We hate to ask for directions! lol

Murphy, you are so right! Facts are paramount if you are going to spout the facts, have your guns loaded with the inf to back yourself up!

"with a very liberal Candy Crowley "

BZZT.

Hi Kim - I always find it amazing how Republicans play the victim when it is obvious things didn't go their way. Manup/Womanup and just admit Romney lost the debate last night. It had nothing to do with Ms. Crowley. She didn't control what words came out of Romney's/ nor Obama's mouths. Romney just didn't hold his own last night and often got caught in his own chameleon stripes - am I a conservative now or a moderate, etc. And perhaps if Romney didn't spend so much time how "did you say the word terror or not", maybe he could have gotten more of his message across. And finally, I do love how Romney wants big government off the back of small business owners, the middle class, etc. but strongly supports big government in the private lives of all citizens: right to deny abortion, right to deny marriage, right to deny immigration, right to give federal money to private schools, etc. etc. etc. Is there not anyone in the Republican camp that sees the hypocrisy of this?

sandy obama had nothing to say and as kim stated he had 10% more time to speak and yet what is obamas plan for the next 4 years

The same "plan" Mittens has. A bunch of very vague stuff he refuses to pinpoint. Get back in the kitchen and clean the floor, Jean.

steve thanks for the link , DO you have a link for Obamas tax plan

How about a fair critique of the two gentlemen's tax plans? Educate yourself instead of playing into the Democrat's dependence on your ignorance when voting.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/romneys-tax-plan-will-drive-business-growth-2012-10-17?link=MW_latest_news

Why do you think the Democratic National Committee put up your link instead of Romney's actual tax idea's? Because if they link to Romney's tax idea's, Obama can't win.

But don't take it from me, click on the link from Market Watch (you know, those people from the Wall Street Journal that actually are concerned with the financial health of the country) and read for yourself.

There may have been only two candidates on that stage last night but there will be more candidates on the ballot. It is far more important that you research your vote so you are not stuck with a "lesser of two evils" choice. If more people vote third party there will be more people on that stage in four years.

rob if you are going to cherry pick lines so can I ....The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts

And that comment on "no act of terror" was in regards to 9/11/2011 as he was memorialized that event. He then went into discuss the Benghazi attack but NEVER labeled it an act of terror. Candy Crowley admits she was wrong to give Obama credit for saying something he never did - but somehow people are willing to use the "close enough" rule and give him a pass. Ridiculous. The man spent two weeks denying it was an act of terror. What more do we need!?

@ James Murphy @ Rob Baker....why wasn't the embassy secured before the terror attack? All you holier than thou Bush bangers are hypocrites. President Bush went into each situation with facts on the ground just like Obama from the people they count on for that intelligence. But because Obama is now being second guessed like Bush was you are trying to defend him. He needs to grow a set and admit he let these Americans down.
And the word terror that was used in the speech at the Rose Garden was used ONCE and he didn't specifically say that the Benghazi attack was an act of terror did he?...NO. He generalized a statement to manipulate when the chit hit the fan. Read the statement....it could be said in any speech at any location and is NOT SPECIFIC. LIE after Lie after Lie after LIe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.

ps/watch the wag the dog scenario....Obama will drop a few bombs just weeks before maybe days before the election. Mark this post because he needs a "save my azz" moment.
Obama doesn't scare me, it's the people who fall for his continuous lies that do.

Holly - can you read? The speech is written at the 10th grade level - I checked it on Word. He clearly is comparing the Benghazi attack to 9/11 - both being acts of terror.
He clearly includes the four killed in Benghazi with the thousands killed on 9/11.
"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

No rather Mitt pointed out we have more women unemployed altogether than before and Obama just sat there knowing he couldn't dispute that. How do we do anything about women's wages when they aren't finding jobs on the first place?

Mitt has a problem with women? another LIE you saw on Rachel Madcow or CNN probably....why is Obama's women in his administration paid so much lower than any other? Please explain that Murphy...or are you just here to toss out hit and run comments?..... Murphy, keep this up and you'll need about 3 hours in the confessional on Sunday.

Neither can President Obama if you look at his own WH pay scales.

This is the only poll that shows Romney ahead.

carolo - wisconsin

Well,
he threw away the "Illegal Hispanic Vote" in Arizona and Colorado. A substantial number of Hispanic Citizens don't disagree with him, not a majority but a substantial number.

No Murphy...most are working...

Please, can you explain how the President controls oil prices ?

If you pump in $$ (ie stimulus) to the economy then the value of the dollar goes down. If the value of the dollar goes down then the price of gas goes up.
Gas = US dollar value
Keep spending Obama, maybe we can get to $5/gallon for christmas!

Myron, do you know what the price of gas was when Bush was in office? It got up to OVER 4.00 per gallon for awhile! As for the democratic lies, lies are the platform Romney and company have been running on for this whole campaign!

A President has ZERO effect on gas prices. That's because it's worldwide commodity and it's traded publicly.

Myron the Moron Republican -- spewing more stupidity.

Exactly !

You're welcome.

Wow! You must have watched the debate with Geof!! lol

Really, Joe?! The price of gas, when it was at its highest was when Bush was in office. It went over $4.00 per gallon for awhile. If Bush was protecting us from attacks, he wouldn't have cut federal money(s) going to police, firemen which affected airport security and relaxed security at the airports that Clinton set in place and maybe 9-11 would have never happened.

Joe with more Republican stupidity. Good grief. No wonder why people like you who make up the Republican Party are morons.

Republicans look extremely stupid (more stupid) and uneducated when they play the gas price card. Gas was dirt cheap because the financial collapse (remember where the stock market is) and crude prices had plummeted because world demand did.

Demand has since increased and so have crude oil prices. Now why they are at the prices they are is NOT because of the President. Perhaps if you weren't too busy stroking yourself off to what Rush and Hannity feed you, you might be dumb, rather than stupid.

Jack, you are awarded 7 points for name calling. You are awarded 1 point each for the following:
"Republican stupidity, morons, extremely stupid, (more stupid), uneducated, dumb, and stupid"

You are awarded an additional 5 points for the crude reference to self-pleasuring and an additional 1 point each for mentioning both Rush and Hannity!

Jack, that's a total of 14 points for childish name calling. Way to get your point(s) across.

(Don't forget, every time you blame Bush you get an extra 3 bonus points) Thanks for playing!

Thanks for your detailed explanation of that hit and run comment. Please explain the incredible leadership your Messiah Obama has given us the last 4 years.

Explain how he spent $6 trillion more dollars cost effectively.
Explain how he lowered unemployment effectively.
Explain how he lowered gas prices effectively.
Explain how he improved our image in foreign policy effectively.
Explain how he did not keep his promise to bring troops from Afghanastan back like he said he would incurring more deaths of soldiers than the previous administration incurred.
Explain how he screwed the coal industry.
Explain how he gave BILLIONS to other countries to drill for oil but not our own.

who is the empty suit now?

you said that 3 times (is that the talking point today)

Silvia, And this Country will no longer be the super power other ally countries look for us to be.

Google Cloward Pivens and see what Obama and his Alinsky loving socialists are doing to this Country. It's happening right in front of your nose. Snif it out and research.

Google "a clue" Joe. You need many. How someone as borderline brain dead as you can breathe is amazing.
Go take another order, chump (I'm assuming that's what you do because I can't imagine someone as stupid as you able to do anything else).

PATCH ,,,, why do you allow these out of state post and runs to continue

beth norquist - florida

yes CNN hid those other poll questions you really have to dig around to find them

yes dems you are now free to vote early and vote often

"yes dems you are now free to vote early and vote often"

Yeah, because that's always been a problem. #retardican

Jack Kelly,
I grew up a Chicago Democrat and YES it is a problem. Then I grew up and am now no longer a Democrat.

" Are we better off than we were four years ago"

I am. Sucks to be you. And every other Republican who loves to lean on this talking point. For a bunch of people who like to want government to get out of the way (when it's convenient for them), you wingtards on the right sure do love to blame the government for YOUR FAILURES in life over the past 4 years.

I guess people forget that the average price of gas (while Bush was president) was over $3 in January of 2008 and over $4 in July of 2008. The prices then fell in the winter, as they usually do.

I'm doing much better now than I was 4 years ago. Last year I bought my first home. This year, my first car. I own a few businesses and my clients keep me busy because they are busy too. My credit score keeps going up. I pay the same for health insurance and have more coverage now. My employer started offering us a benefit for the first time ever.

Hibs, are we better off than when Bush was in?! Just barely but still better off in many ways. If Rmney gets in, America as we know it, will change beyond belief. I voted for Obama, also, four years ago. I do not care for a lot of things he did and didn't do but the Republicans have someone worse that Obama. You cannot complain about the price of gas that much because, under Baby Bush, it was over 4.00 per gallon. If your health insurance is 800.00 more a month, I'd find another job or the reason it is so much higher but it's not all Obama's fault.

What now Obama is robinhood now

i am voting for prez obama!!!! (because you haven't been kicked in the nads and pocketbook enough yet right?) he has our back he takes back whats ours (jobs, oil dependency, your money) away from the rich. (those evil job creators)

Go get em sheeple...lambs to the slaughter. Most divisive President ever...

call it what you want the way i see it this is payback for 200 years of slavrey now its your turn to go work while we stay home obama/biden12

Alan let me ask you one question who would you vote for Al Gore or O.J Simpson if they were running for president

well kim no dout oj simpson in 2016

I think this is a case where having to take a test before voting would be a good thing
Alan T "t oj simpson in 2016 "

He doesn't publically make a negative comment about ANY race, religion, or creed.....because he realizes that any blanket statement would be stereotypical, demeaning, degrading, and absolutely counterproductive. He is President of The United States of America...and EVERYONE in it....not just Christians.

Umm...."bad taste" is not against TOS. IT's bad enough we have a bunch of whiny cowards as it is being abusive and reporting posts they don't like (and they know who they are).

murphy my comment was the definition to an offensive term used in an earlier post

What you think is "bad taste" or "over the line" is irrelevant. Spare us your PC judgmental crap.

Murphy-Solon Patch,
Common Ground!
Thank you.

I agree.

PATCH .... why are these out of state robo-posters allowed to keep posting and running

watts - california

In what way am I a "robo poster?" Would you like to engage in an intelectual discussion of the facts or do you want to whine when the facts aren't going your way?

I am hear for legitimate discourse.

Watts 9 posts same subject in a 10 minute time span that is a robo-poster

So you actually think that you are now having a conversation with a computer or some sort of robot?

watts - california
watts - california

adam, do you have a point? This article is of national interest, not local. If you look at the end of the article, there is a link to the local interest article and you will see that I am not participating there. Are you and Kim L intimidated by people from other states? Do fear engaging on actual issues, so much that you try to demonize somebody like myself when I come to participate on a nationally significant subject? I know what people in CA think, as I speak to them daily. I am now trying to engage in a conversation with people from Ohio. But I hope that these posts from Kim L and adam are anomalies and that there are some brighter people out there who do have something of substance to contribute.

watts - california

yes,
article of national interest
but
to be discussed on a local forum, with the last sentence

"Check back Wednesday to see what Patch's Red/Blue Northeast Ohio poll participants thought."

so, patch even foresees this to be for local consumption

Didn't realize that in this day and age, that there were still people who didn't understand how hypertext works. That last sentence is a link directing you to a different article that is for locals; "Election 2012: Introducing Red/Blue Northeast Ohio"

Also, just so you are aware, I did contact the local editor and she said that there was no problem with my posting.

watts- yes, let me explain how hypertext works to you - in this case it sends the reader to an earlier article, from july, to tell the reader who the poll participants are; but read again my entire sentence above in quotes that says check back wednesday

and wednesdays article is
"Local Debate Reaction: Democrats Think Obama Won, While Republicans Support Romney"

again, see the word local

why do you think i am on here pointing out you propaganda pumpers and spam spreaders who just want to stir things up; let me tell you, to get the terms changed so they prevent garbage being posted to local editions; so keep calling the editors, please, and bring the attention to this topic we want

is no one wanting to debate issues with you that you keep coming back, or are you trying to bully me off here next?

adam, I guess when you become an editor, then you might better understand how Patch works, but until then, you can just posting your opinion.

Now by what you posted here; "or are you trying to bully me off here next"that you must be making a reference to lyn, Now with lyn, she was somebody that I had never referenced or posted a reply to ever on here. She, on the other had, decided to target me and brought false accusations against me and when pressed for facts, she obviously could not provide and, so she opted to shirk away in a melodramatic escape that (not surprisingly) brought nothing but amusement to others on here who were actually happy to see her go. I certainly don't know her history on here, but what I do know is that from what I saw, she had no problem spewing complete fiction as fact, and seeming from the reaction that her departure received, other people were very happy to see her take a time out.

Now I obviously don't come to these articles to engage on the ridiculousness of local versus national contributors, but I am not going to let somebody falsely slander me either. You may call that bullying, but all she had to do was apologize once for her lying and misrepresentation of me and that would have been the end of it. She didn't just fail herself, but she lost credibility in the community and I think that probably was a bigger factor in why she took her time out.

Now with you, you haven't yet made any false claims. In fact, you really havent done anything except make some pesky posts that don't really seem to have a point at all. That is why I tried to draw out if you had a point or not. Obviously, you had no point, as much as you had a gripe. And it is noted. It doesn't mean much in the scope of things, but lets just say that you have voiced your opinion about people posting from outside of your area (which seems to be vaguely defined). I have no problem with you, except if you continue to fly around me like a nat, contributing nothing. So there is no bullying and no reason to continue this conversation. I never approached you in this thread and if you limit your engagement with me to the subjects being discussed, then everything will be copacetic again. There is no reason for you to reply to me or to post about me, unless it is about the substance of the subject of the article or within the logical progression that the discussion has taken from the original article.

i don't need to stand up for lyn, she always did that well on her own and seemed to have well thought out opinions and didn't resort to name calling;i didn't read people saying anything at all like you state about being glad she left and i think this is all in your mind just like the accusation you claim lyn made; i read your 2 exchanges and even your summary and all an outside reader gets is that you felt slighted when grouped with people posting from other states; get over it and yourself

a bit of an overreaction and tantrum, don't you think?
constantly saying apologize, apologize; you poor thing, when there was nothing there

and if you did ever follow her comments, she has corrected herself when wrong; i think that is why other people did not react the way you had hoped when she left; she was willing to be openminded, unlike others i read on here

more than just lyn have left because of these propaganda pumpers and spam spewers, because they have enticed a lot of anger and people did not come here for that

after losing 5 million jobs which is why the unemployment rate stayed the same

Judy, in your description of R & R, you forgot to mention "lies, flim-flam plans, and benefiting the 1 percent." You really know how to pick them, huh.

beth norquist - florida

R&R scare me to death. In the first bebate Rommy told 12 blatant lies, gave his ok for ads that were again, blatant lies, Romney nor Ryan were for bailing out the auto manufacturers and Republicans blocked Obama's attempts in creating jobs 33 or 34 times wasn't it? Obama's not a "shiney apple" but I, myself, am going for Obama. On the jobs portion of Romney's platform... This man has sent more American jobs overseas than most of the companies that left on their own accord. Women's rights, if R&R get in office, will be set back decades. Either way, God bless America! Congrats on your first campaign donation! lol Best of luck but I'm kinda sorta hoping for better luck that you! ;)

Well said, Ian. Couldn't have said it better myself!

beth norquist - florida

Ian, I couldn't agree more. Not sure how any woman could ever vote for R/R ticket this year, no matter what political party you subscribe to

Ian, thank you for making my mind up for me. 1) new tax system-yes
2) make English official language-yes
3) restore family values -yes
4) dismantle Obama "bankrupt" America Care- yes
5) freedom to bare arms- yes
6) drill for oil and end our reliance on foreign oil- yes
7) teach abstinence - yes
Time for the minority to stop ramming their ideology down the majorities throats.

Thanks for helping me vote for Romney

Paul, I concur.

Carrie, I have a question. Please elaborate on why you think woman should not vote for the R/R ticket.

Thank you.

LOL,
good one -
thanks

ian, you may have noticed i haven't been listing people supporting only one party, just that one party has many more people doing this, and these
anger enticing, propaganda pumpers should be banned from here and all patch across the country

Adam just wants to "ban" anyone that disagrees with his "opinion." We really don't need a "location tracker" here. He only starts this when Obama supporters post comments that make actual sense. Anhyone who thinks a public forum is "ONLY" for local people has a screw loose.

as posted earlier ...the patch needs to do something about all those robo-posters from out of state. when they make 10 long posts in 5 minutes in 10 states they are not adding to any discussions but drowning out the local discussions (killing the flow between the people in our area)

john, you assume i have voted and what person i support

freedom of speech?
people misuse this term and throw it around without realizing what is involved

if one desires freedom of speech, have your own online newspaper without any terms of use, or select any terms you decide

can you impose your implied freedom of speech, say what you want, anytime you want,
in school?
in church?
in court?
at work?
in another persons living room?
in print, like kiddie porn?
at even you own local public square?
no
there are limitations that are and can be imposed

and patch is a private enterprise that can determine its own terms and could decide that people using its forum to promote an agenda would not be permitted, and they could allow for weeding out those having discussions about issues because they have a vacation home here or lived here or family here or you name it

it doesn't take too much analysis of a persons comment history to decide if they should be banned, just as they decide this is for " personal and non-commercial purposes"

I laugh every time I hear this paranoid rant about these "robo-posters" injecting their "propaganda" into Patch discussion boards. Really? That person Lyn (who has since disappeared) started this whole thing, and I venture to guess the rest of you would not have even noticed who was posting, as long as you were able to insult them. You just jump on this silly bandwagon, and start restating what others have told you. It is really pathetic that some people have nothing else to offer to a debate, other than criticizing where people are debating FROM....lol such a waste of time.

john all the robo-posters are doing is pushing all the independents away from the democrats (just so they wont be in the same party of the site spammers it comes across as forcing their opinion down others throat)

john, as a reader i would rather know when a message is spam or propaganda, instead of a comment being written by an interested reader
this intrusion is a result of the fear by campaigners of which way ohio will go
we come here to talk with our neighbors, we are not expecting to come to a national forum

Yes but...Nixon did end the war in Vietnam....that is NO secret! LOL!

Now that you have informed us of Romney's secret plans...what are Obama's secret plans?

Too funny!

tom m, if you had even a sniff of a clue about how our society runs, you'd be able to see that we are only one ultra-conservative Supreme Court justice short of us never in our lifetimes getting another favorable decision. Even before Reagan came along, there was a conservative long-range plan to pack the Court with the most conservative Justices available. All that has accomplished is to give ever greater power to the corporations that have already been very busy buying all the representatives and senators they can, to consolidate their control of our lives. It isn't the "big government" we should be concerned with. Do you work for yourself? I ask, because if you work for a corporation, how could you not recognize that all the benefits now go to the top, and your paycheck doesn't grow like it used to...unless you're part of upper management. This has been accelerating over the past 30 years...while you were buying the conservative pablum. You haven't noticed? REALLY?

BTW, I don't drink Kool-Aid. I think for myself.

robert the easiest way for you to solve your hate of "big corporations" is to start your OWN company then you can reap the benefits that go along with being a business owner and a job creator.
if not you can just stay down in moms basement all day blogging about your hate of George Bush

Robert, you are right on, and Kim doesn't have a clue what you are talking about. She is brainwashed by big business into thinking that they create all the jobs, and that people can live off of what they are paying. You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT in saying that everything flows UP now...all benefits. In previous times, companies were willing to share the fruits of everyone's labor in the form of pay raises, bonuses, profit sharing...they appreciated their workers...but NO MORE. There are a few that still do this, but most large companies now focus on the bottom line, how to work the workers harder and longer (and with less of them) so that the CEOs can go home with million-dollar bonuses. Rather than "create" jobs, they are eliminating them, so that their profit is higher for the top-level management.

Apparently James Murphy, the only thing we share on this issue is our namesake. The sober and informed American realizes that our economy is experiencing an historical transition. The global market does not suit the interests of the country with the highest standard of living. We have no choice but to retro-fit our country to deal with low wage / no health insurance competition. In addition, the emergence of a high tech economy requires significantly less labor. The first signs of this new reality appeared during the Bush administration through no fault of his own. Therefore, the 2008 financial fraud came along at the absolute worst time. I submit that it is pie in the sky thinking that, given these challenges, in 4 years "happy days would be here again". We have a tough economic structural issue going forward regardless of who inhabits an Oval Office. The American people do not want to see the sober truth for what it is. That said, I disagree with you James Murphy, I believe the President is poised for re-election.

ATTENTION PATCH USERS
please read Murphy-Solons reply, this is how to reply to a post that you disagree with he made his point with no insults

James that is a pretty accurate statement

Great comment, Murphy-Solon. I agree with you, as per usual, and you make a lot of sense, as per usual...

carolo - wisconsin
but apparently if i list the state in which he registered with the patch he wants everyone to know this fact, rather than say he lives in michigan (or other states)

regardless, this is
spam

carolo says he is not from wisconsin, never been there
and feels since its a federal election and not a state election, then what? he has a right to spread his propaganda to our region, just because ohio is a crucial state?
then, carolo, what was your interest in Aug. 2011 and what was justification for your large number of comments on the wisconsin patch then about the state senate recall?
are you just a campaign worker employed to flood these type of forums with your propaganda?
you can't have it both ways
but at least we know when we see your name to disregard your comment

cnn, msnbc, forbes,... - directed at a national audience

solon patch, cuyahoga falls patch, lakewood patch,... - directed at each individual community's and surrounding region's audience

Thanks for helping me make my point

Bill knows exactly what he is doing

and for those of you who missed bill clintons comments
Bill Clinton telling crowd in Parma that Romney Is right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeBCWLGoJb0

Nice edit job. Nobody is going to catch that was taken out of context ;-) Way to prove that the conservative base isn't exactly filled with brainiacs.

@Watts...kind of like Romney killing that woman with cancer, so nicely construed by the Dems. Kind of like Stephanie Cutter's accusation that Romeny committed a felony? Kind of like Romney's 'Binder's full of women'?

Its not the first time Clinton complimented Romney! LOL!

@Watts: Clinton isn't the only one who sees Romney's good points. Lee Iacocca a lifelong democrat, not short too short brains, has announced his support for Romney.

With Romney's success and experience in business I find that a better qualification than community organizing. I think this nation needs to be run from the middle of the road. Special interest groups both right and left distract from important issues such as the economy and national security and they turn me off. Romney has demonstrated successfully his ability to work with Democrats when he was governor. I want someone willing to work with both parties, flexible in ideology in order to negotiate successfully on important issues. Obama has shown that he cannot lead in that way. He is 'its my way or the highway', he even rejected Bowles-Simpson. We are in a mess and we need a new approach.

Same here....I was with Lyn all the way. If my internet tower hadn't been on and off for nearly two weeks, I would have chimed in, supporting her.

I am sure after the election she will return the patch needs to do something about all those robo-posters from out of state. when they make 10 long posts in 5 minutes in 10 states they are not adding to any discussions but drowning out the local discussions (killing the flow between the people in our area)

but what I did do was went to some of the home cities of some of the robo-posters and copy pasted all their posts on all the pages stories (bored at work) beth norquests city got over 100

@James Murphy: Cheers! What is good for the goose and so forth....LOL! What those robo-posters do is not discussion its desperation.

and I am not even saying that even with a political view I think these out of town posters hurt both local points of view by changing the discussion and even angering many of the posters ( i think it might even be pushing the local independents away from the democrats)

I agree! LOL!

bill are you saying that Romneys plan over 4 years will add more than Obamas 6 trillion that he added in his first 4 years to the national debt

Bill those were the same plans he had in 2008 and a trillion in stimulas he never completed one of his plans ....even with majority in house and senate

pssssttt Romney no longer own Bain .... but you can explain this one for me .....
.A bailed out General Motors expanded its small truck and SUV manufacturing in China soon after closing down similar facilities in Janesville, Wisconsin -- the plant Barack Obama pledged to save and keep open for “another hundred years” in 2008.

sharpie - pennsylvania

this message is propaganda / spam , posted 21 times on different patch articles across the country this afternoon

thanks Adam I just reposted 40 of sharpies spam posts on his home cities site (Radnor)

james, thanks, good idea

Ignore Paul Revere (St Louis)

more fracking in 2013

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spam
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richard e. templin - new jersey